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Commodore Amiga light guns are not something I remember fondly, or at all if I’m honest, but they obviously existed and I’d like to get up to speed on them thanks to the arrival of a Trojan Phazer. Join me today as we try out almost every game available for this and other lightguns on the platform.
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#commodore #amiga #lightguns
Kamil Kamil
14.05.2023Good games <3
MiSTer Walrus FPGA
14.05.2023Ah cool, hadn't ever seen those two clones of the Sega Light Phaser! Neat that they're for home computers also.. really great option with how accurate the light phaser is. Gotta say I'd love to give all those games a try. That version of Space Gun looks SO much better than the Sega Master System version. It's crazy Taito even tried pulling that off on the SMS really. You mentioned wanting a game that has light gun segments along with other gameplay portions, and I wholeheartedly recommend The Lone Ranger for NES to scratch this itch. Great Konami classic with light gun portions throughout the adventure, though a bit tough with that classic NES difficulty at times! Thanks for the entertaining look into Amiga light gun games!
Jason Gooden
14.05.2023Bonus points for shooting the gull… I thought you said Girl until you said " and the egg it drops"
judewest2000 burner
14.05.2023I follow amiga stuff and news closely. Till you mentioned this, I never knew there were any light guns for the Amiga ever
Nathan Smith
14.05.2023Wow, I had no idea the Amiga had light gun games!
Light gun games at home are bit of a favourite of mine, which largely peaked with the indomitable Time Crisis 2!
As a kid, I remember craving the Sinclair Magnum. I managed to borrow one from a friend who'd gotten a speccy +2 007 bundle. Sadly (crushingly, actually 😭) I couldn't get it to work! 😂
As noted, the arrival of the PlayStation, Time Crisis and the G-Con45 really got the ball rolling again.
jason smith
14.05.2023Looks like the sega master systems gun which was from the anime zillion.
Mike
14.05.2023I'm surprised you didn't mention the Sega Master System phaser gun that looked like some of those other ones you showed in the video or lethal enforcers gun or Sega menacer gun.
Børge Nøst
14.05.2023My first lightgun was for my PS2, playing on my 25" tv. Trying that now on a 14" (what I have of CRTs) isn't all too tempting…
Logan Jorgensen
14.05.2023That was my first thought "The Amiga had a light gun?". ^_^ Never quite understood how Commodore could make peripherals for industrial smoke screen reasons like the meditation pad but not for the actual platforms they made. O_o??? Still can't believe they'd launch Amiga without a new game controller in retrospect since that had long reaching consequences.
There's a bunch of reasons for the 16-bit lull, poor progress in the technology for home use and topical gun politics as a barrier. Despite a lack of software I consider the Menacer as the best light gun of that generation, good tracking foundation, multiple triggers, and adjustable grip options.
Solid gun the Amiga one, nothing fancy but good. Just wish more light guns of 8 or 16-bit era included two triggers, so, so many arcade games had two buttons. 🙁 While not memorable the games by Trojan are a very solid effort, while Space Gun is probably the best title. Yikes such harsh magazine scores, not the best I've seen in the genre but I was expecting much worse quite frankly. 😉
What what What
14.05.2023I'm always skipping at the start because I believe you're going to plug another monster joystick but this time you caught me out with a PCB plug. I skipped it still….
CitroenGS
14.05.2023Isn't that the same gun used by Amstrad for the Spectrum +2a and +3? Or the same mold, at least…
Poking Technology
12.05.2023I'm less concerned about the Aliex lizard's knee-high boots and more concerned about the strange thong it's wearing. I appreciate that tails make clothes more complicated, but that does not look comfortable.
MistaMaddog247
12.05.2023They also had Trojan light guns for the Atari ST, I've seen ads for them in ST Format. Wasn't interested though since I've done the light gunning on the NES years before…
TVR Creators
12.05.2023Very interesting video, good one dint know bout this gun, some good games. 👍🙂💾
Paul's Computer Emporium
12.05.2023Console wise the 16bit SNES 1990 was light gun city with the super scope, Justifier Light Gun etc maybe this was released around the hype of that.
infopackrat
12.05.2023Wouldn't all those guns be compatible with each other? The way I understand light guns worked it should.
Vintage Views
12.05.2023I am sure I saw it for sale in Amiga Format. I agree it felt like a dated concept in the 16bit era
LasseDamgaard
12.05.2023I honestly never heard about Amiga light guns and I was pretty big into Amiga 500 back then. 😂
Paul Dobson
12.05.2023I had that gun and 'space gun' too
Tomsonic41
12.05.2023There was another Amiga light gun, but very few people ever had it in their homes – American Laser Games arcade cabinets! They had an Amiga 500 inside along with a laserdisc player and genlock device to run the game.
VulpisFoxfire
12.05.2023Kinda reminds me of the Sega Master System lightgun, actually. Also, is that a Phoenix arcade game (a little hard to make out the exact name with the light glare) in front of the Vectrex setup?
dopestar1975
11.05.2023Saw the gun though nes
Gonzo Duke
11.05.2023Mr. Bill 15:13
Nick Blackburn
11.05.2023Looks like the phaser that came with the Spectrum +2 action pack, or the Sega Master system light gun.
B Boy
11.05.2023I have 2.
Not sure if they still work.
Also don’t know why I have 2, 😂
Paul van der Laak
11.05.2023I have the CDI lightgun from Philips.
GoGreenGameOn
11.05.2023Hmmm… The PlayStation and Sega Saturn ports of their light gun games were faaaaaar from arcade perfect. But I know what you mean 😉👍
trelaineultima
11.05.2023That looks identical other than colour to the magnum for the spectrum
K1ngArth3r
11.05.2023I never had a light gun on the Amiga, however I did enjoy Mad Dog McCree in the arcade (along with the other releases from the same company) which ran on the Amiga 😀
Also, regarding 16 bit games, Lethal Enforcers series was great on the home systems.
Chaotic System
11.05.2023Can you shoot the baloons?
Realities in the Raw
11.05.2023I can see these being handy for Beast Busters or Operation Wolf, but I don't recall those having any options beyond typical joystick or mouse support.
Paul K
10.05.2023I saw exactly this gun at one of the Live! exhibitions in Earl's Court in the early 90s. I can't say I was impressed with the accuracy and so moved on. It's funny because like many things at the time gamers just wanted the next best thing and there was very little nostalgia for old kit and software like there is now. It's great to see that some of these were saved though!
Flavio Tonello Tavares
10.05.2023This gun design came from Zillion Japanese animation.
Max Higgs
10.05.2023Ah yes, I can still feel and hear the cheap squeak of the trigger being pulled. Not one of the peak Amiga experiences. No where near as solid as the one I'd used on my friend's Nes.
Digital Archaeologist
10.05.2023There probably isn't and perhaps by design but I do wonder if there was any compatibility between the light guns. The only one I ever had was for the Spectrum and was mostly used with Bullseye. I was aware of them for the Amiga but never knew anyone that had one
Rob Mc
10.05.2023I had one. Good fun.
Nathan Chisholm
10.05.2023Loved duckhunt! Me and my mate pete would spend hours on it driving mum nuts! lol
Alex Holland
10.05.2023Could the Mad Dog McCree Laser disc light gun arcade machines be considered "Amiga light gun games"? It is a shame games like this never came to the CDTV in some form.
Tweedle
10.05.2023I had the NES light-gun and Duck Hunt that was on the SMB/DuckHunt double cartridge…. then I had an SNES with the SuperScope6 and game that came with it, which I THOROUGHLY ENJOY, as did my brother… I feel like we had a second game for it that we never played because it wasn't all that good. BUT we DID get the MOUSE and MARIO PAINT which was AWESOME!!!!! There was a part of Mario Paint where you could compose music by putting little icons of the characters heads on a music sheet and each one played a different sound… well in a Nintendo Power issue they had a LONG COMPLEX SONG printed out, going along the bottom of I think on at least 3 pages…. and you were supposed to copy it, icon by icon, into your Mario Paint game and you ended up with an amazing sound!!! I think I got 1 whole page done and had to do something else, but the power was cut to the Nintendo, and when I got back I was so worried that it didn't save all my "hard' work!!! But luckily it was still there!!! So I continued and finished the second page and again something came up and I had to step away, and once again the power was lost…
"NO PROBLEM!" I thought….
Little did I know that it did save your work, AS LONG AS you KEPT the Cartridge IN THE SNES!!!! – Which OBVIOUSLY didn't happen, or else I wouldn't be telling you this silly story.. lol
But I thought I was the coolest for getting so much of the work done, and I made a big deal about this song that "I WROTE" (yes, I tried to take credit for writing an orchestral sonata when I was like 10 years old LOL 🤦♂️) So I gathered the family around to show them, and when I turned it on…. BOOM!! It was GONE!!! I was SOOOO UPSET!!! I started blaming my little brother (OF COURSE I DID….. thats what little punk 10 year olds do.. they blame EVERYTHING on their little brother) But my Dad calmed me down and explain that it didn't save because I unplugged the cartridge (Which I honestly don't even know it was true… but I distinctly remember him telling me that and I totally believed it and carried that 'FACT' with me to this day… have I ever tested? No. But to me it is 100% FACTUALLY TRUE… lol What a great scientist I am!!!) Well I ended up crying my s3elf to sleep that night because I couldn't show everyone this wonderful song that "I WROTE" ….I was such a little lying brat.. LOL – I think at one point in life I actually heard the song they printed… and if I HAD written that at age 10 just out of the blue, with ZERO musical experi3ence… my parent would have sent me to Julliard!!! LMAO!!!
Maarten Sneep
10.05.2023But how did these work? Timing of the scan of the CRT to detect what you're aiming at?
eightbit
10.05.2023I had Actionware's Capone and they sold a lightgun for it which I had. It was just a rebadged Atari XEGS light gun so I suspect one of those will work with the Amiga.
Elizabeth Anderson
09.05.2023Seafront arcades … and funfairs! … I didn't do lightguns, I had a powerful pump action water pistol that really enraged the cats along the backwalls
Jimbob
09.05.2023Pretty much the same experience for me. I remember getting duck hunt when it came out, someone said ‘89 but I’m sure it was earlier than that? But anyway I played that with my dad then didn’t play any light gun games until my auntie got the super scope. Which was fun but didn’t make me want one, then my next light gun game was virtua cop on Saturn/arcade, so many good light gun games from 96? To mid 2000s the game on PlayStation which name has gone from my mind was good, nothing beats house of the dead 2 on the arcade/dc though. So much fun & ££ spent
MartinV
09.05.2023Worth watching this for the broccoli face hugger animation alone!
Josh Miller
09.05.2023Great video! I have many memories with Atari XE playing bughunt!
foxy 2000
09.05.2023Hey Neil, really like your content mate! I'm in Stroud so will definately try and get over the Cave soon!
May I ask what tracks are that you've used in this episode? some very nice 90s sounding electronica!
djsquibby
09.05.2023I got my Trojan Phazer and games from a computer show back in the day. I've always loved rail gun shooters, a group of us often gathered at my house for a games session, the light gun always got played. The trick with Space Gun is to shoot the aliens legs first
;)_~
mrpositronia
09.05.2023I remember seeing the Spectrum lightgun being promoted at the Computer Games event at Earls court, back in 1988, i think it was. I was instantly put off by the black bar across the screen whenever you pulled the trigger. That was the event that Ocean had a very big stand promoting the upcoming release of Robocop. My dad also bought me an advanced copy of Shinobi for the Spectrum. A fun day. 🙂
Angry Dove
09.05.2023I never had any success with light guns, I could put it right up to the screen and still not hit anything. And yes, that was back in the day on CRTs.
Too bad all light guns don't work with all games.
Steven Haggy
09.05.2023I must have known at one time that the Amiga had a light gun available; as Capone was one of the very first games I owned. I surely saw the light gun option in Capones settings, but I don't think I ever saw one for sale anywhere.